SCTC's ad sounds a bit like a bunch of clowns, and I flatly don't see how they can do some of the things they claim, but, these are very savvy guys, and the type enforcement stuff is dynamite technology. I'm not sure how it applies to a firewall, but it's very nifty stuff, and probably fits in usefully somewhere. I expect they have a really solid product that looks a lot like an ordinary firewall, with some extra, innovative, good stuff, and they also have a very enthusiastic person in marketing who writes their copy. And I say this even having interviewed there and been wished the best of luck in my job search ;) Andrew